Edmund (Ned) English

No date of birth or exact death date has been found for Edward English.  His parentage is assumed by the fact he is one of the four English men who at the time Griffith's Valuations were taken in 1852 was living on the land that had been the home of Thomas English when the Tithe Applotments were taken.  This well founded assumption and records of his known siblings led to a supposed mother as well.  As it is unlikely he was under twenty at the time of his marriage to Mary Lawler on 29 Nov 1845,he most likely was born before 1825.

Ballybunion Parish Register pg 298

  

Thomas English used the 1851 census to apply for a pension.  The following extract shows he is the son of Ned and Mary Lawler who were married in 1845 and living in Gullane in 1851.

In 1852 Edmond English was leasing three properties from George Gun in Gullane East.  One property was a house, offices (out buildings) and approximately 27.5 acres of land with a net annual value of £9.0 shillings for the land and £1 for the building.  The second parcel was a garden with a net annual value of 3 shillings.  The third parcel of 88 acres was held jointly with Thomas, John and Jeremiah English with an annual value of £3.15 shillings for each lot. 

Griffith's Valuations - Kilconly Parish, Kerry 1852

It seems possible that Edmund is the eldest son as the lands in the possession of the brothers that are leased to others are listed in the name of Edmund English and others. If the naming patterns hold true here that might make the father of Thomas English, Edmund. The home of  Edward English and Mary Lawlor, was Ireland's characteristic grey, rectangular, sod house with a thatched roof.  The home was still standing in 1967 when Dolores English Young visited.

 The death date of Edmund is assumed from the cancelled valuation books.  He was crossed off in the 1860/61 listing and Mary inserted in his place.  As this is before civil registration of deaths, and no burial record has been found, this is the closest to a date we are likely to find.  As his daughter Mary was born in 1860/1 the death could not have been before 1860.

Valuation Books - Listowel Rural District, Gullane Electoral Division v.15 p.9-11

Ned and Mary had six known children:

• Catherine - christened 7 Apr 1847 thought to have emigrated in 1875 but no documentation found to date
• John bn about 1851 m 17 Apr 1874 to Margaret Flahavin
• Thomas bn abt 1852 m 24 Feb 1875 to Mary Moloney d. 1940 in Gullane
• William christened 3 May 1855, nothing more known
• Mary (Minnie) bn abt 1855 m Michael O'Connor
• Edmund (12 Oct 1856 - 23 Dec 1920)